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Warrior-Z: @LazarunZalonir:
Appeal to authority fallacy.
@SelfishLittleJunkieFuck:
Already debunked the A'ishah RA argument?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MiupfAM3Sb5GNC9HkP58MbhYUQe2JW38-W9QuZ9e2o8/edit?tab=t.0
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Chud7: Why can't you people go somewhere else like xitter or reddit to argue about religion? The bald man with glasses booru is not the place for this faggotry
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Warrior-Z: @LazarunZalonir: I just debunked it you tranny, you're not refuting the appeal to authority point means that I win this conversation. You're so low iq.
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LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-Z: what disrespect calling me a tranny, have you even read the Bible your prophet told you to read? Trannies are an abomination unto christ, are you retarded or something?
LazarunZalonir: you cant refute it thats why you call me a tranny, maybe refute for yourself and dont rely on others, i can refute everything about the quran and islam if i want to, but that would go over the character limit, you live in your own little bubble and cant even doubt one thing.
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-Z: give me something every MUSLIM agrees upon, not a single figure with his own isolated opinion, we have the church fathers, who all agree on nearly everything and we follow them, but your greatest imams are confusing and they dont even obey Muhammad, can you give me sources that agree with each other.
STOP PSOTING THAT DREADED SPEECH BUBBLE IM ACTUALLY ON THE VERGE ON TEARS RIGHT NOW IM NOT WARRIOR-Z FUCK YIU BOOTUTATDS BURN IN HELL I DONT KOOK LIKE THAT YOURE AALL OBSESSED
tvrkicwvrriorforyuo: @Chud: @SackjakWABAG: @Chud: Would you guys ever stop samefagging and posting the same speechbubble over and over again? You're making a random nigger cry. And that's cyberbullying. I hope froot rapes all of you.
Translation:
"And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say: 'We believe in what has been revealed to us and revealed to you; and our God and your God is one, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.'"
> Problem: If Allah and the God of the Christians are the same, then rejecting Christ's divinity contradicts their own book.
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"They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him."
> Problem: The Arabic grammar here places "the Messiah" alongside Allah as a lord, which directly implies his divinity within the Qur'anic text. This is a huge theological contradiction.
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"They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary' while the Messiah said, 'O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' Indeed, he who associates others with Allah-Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers."
> Problem: This verse contradicts 9:31, where Jesus is grouped together with Allah as a "Lord." If Muhammad was consistent, he would not have made this mistake.
LazarunZalonir: are you serious, or is this a joke, are you Jewish now? Because no Muslim calls Allah 'Hashem.' Make up your mind.
If you're Muslim, then Allah is your god-not 'Hashem.' But if you now say 'Hashem' is the only God, then you're rejecting Muhammad, because Muhammad never used that name. Are you a Jew or a Muslim?
Funny how the moment your Qur'an crumbles, you abandon Islamic names for God. What's next? Are you gonna start keeping kosher too?
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@LazarunZalonir:
Anyways, that was a falseflag, if you could read, retard, it says Warrior-7, that's not me who said that. Now lets get back to the topic, what's the proposition you're willing to defend?
LazarunZalonir: If the Quran is so well-preserved, why did Uthman have to burn all the other versions? And why does the oldest manuscript (Sana'a) show changes?
Warrior-Z: @LazarunZalonir:
The verse (29:46) confirms that the God of the Muslims is one and the same, one Creator recognized by Jews and Christians. But merely acknowledging the same referent (God) does not mean to accept the theological constructs that developed around Him. Pure monotheism and the rejection of the Trinity along with the idea that Jesus is divine is defended by Islam. In the Quran, there is comparison of theology: the worship of the one true God is acclaimed by the Jews, Christians, and Muslims; however, only Islam reserves the unqualified assertion of His oneness. Thus, it would not be contradictory-but instead, common ground is identified and pointed out where common ground diverges.
Let's finish this one first, since you decided to do a shotgun fallacy instead of sticking to one point, so retard, GO AHEAD and TRACK the conversation.
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-Z: Why did Uthman burn different Quranic versions?
Why does the oldest Quranic manuscript (Sana'a) have erased and rewritten text?
If the Quran is perfectly preserved, why do Sunni and Shia Muslims use different versions today?
LazarunZalonir: Even 1 Enoch is more stable than the Quran. That's how bad it is. @Warrior-Z: Answer the question: Why did Uthman burn different versions? If the Quran is unchanged, why does the Sana'a manuscript show erasures and rewrites? Why do Shias and Sunnis have different Qurans if it was 'perfectly' preserved?
Warrior-7: @LazarunZalonir: During Uthman's caliphate (644-656 CE), different versions of the Quran were in circulation due to variations in readings and dialects. This concerned Uthman and his advisors, who feared it could lead to discord among Muslims, also Uthman ordered the creation of a single, authoritative version based on the text compiled during the time of the first caliph, abu Bakr.
This version was based on the Quraysh dialect, the dialect of the Prophet Muhammad.
LazarunZalonir: Wow, all that typing but no answer to a simple historical fact. You're running away faster than Uthman burned those Qurans. Cope harder. Even Muslim scholars admit the Sana'a manuscript shows changes. Can you read?
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-7: The 'Uthmanic text' you keep referring to is exactly what was standardized and burned by Uthman. If there's no difference, why do Shia and Sunni Muslims have disagreements on certain readings? And why does the Sana'a manuscript contain erased and rewritten text if the Quran is perfectly preserved? You're ignoring the historical evidence and trying to sweep it under the rug.
Warrior-7: @LazarunZalonir: The Sana'a manuscript has a palimpsest, meaning it has erased text underneath the visible text. This erased text is also part of the Quran but varies slightly from the standard Uthmanic version.
There, I just answered your questions, so that Warrior-Zion doesn't have to pause his Soylita goon session.
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-7: You're just admitting the point I made. The palimpsest in the Sana'a manuscript shows that there were variations even after Uthman's standardization. This contradicts your claim of the Quran being perfectly preserved. The erased text isn't some trivial variation; it proves the existence of different readings that were eventually suppressed. So if there was no difference, why did Uthman feel the need to burn the earlier versions? Nice try, though.
LazarunZalonir: You're trying to defend a Quran with erased text and variations, but the Bible-even outside of the canon-is an entirely different story. We have Anaginoscomena (readable but not canonical), Appendix books like 4th Ezra and 4th Maccabees, and even texts like 1 Enoch-which are more stable than the Quran. The Apostolic Fathers, and the writings of millions of Christians throughout history, universally agree on the core of the faith. These texts were preserved, confirmed, and trusted for centuries. Even in Orthodox circles, there's a coherence in the transmission of faith and theology that the Quran-with its history of burning and rewriting-just doesn't have. The differences between Sunni and Shia Qurans prove there is no consistency. You can try to defend it, but it's clear who has the stronger tradition here. You may argue with me, but the evidence speaks for itself.
SackjakWABAG: Islamic countries are overwhelmingly brown and or black. Not saying thats an issue however warrior is mad about that. also is kernung and shitoko actual pedophiles? if so howcome people such as imperator claim him as "chad"?
Warrior-7: @LazarunZalonir: Man, you are illiterate. First I'm Warrior-7, not Warrior-Z. I already answered all of your questions. A consensus was found between all the version of Quran, Uthman and his advisors created a standardized version and based it on the Quraysh dialect. No version of Quran was suppressed. As for every religions text, there are different oral interpretations of the written holy books.
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-7: You're still talking about the Quraysh dialect and Uthman's standardization, but that doesn't fix the issues. The Quran was compiled, revised, and burned-and we know Uthman ordered it done under the assumption that multiple versions could cause division. Meanwhile, the Bible has had a far more stable transmission. Even the Apostolic Fathers agree on core teachings, and there are thousands of early Christian writings that have been preserved and handed down through generations, unified on doctrine. You claim the Quran has one version, yet we see different readings, disagreements, and erasures in the Sana'a manuscript, while 4th Ezra and other books like 1 Enoch add depth to the understanding of salvation that the Quran fails to provide. So when you claim "no version was suppressed," you're ignoring historical facts. If you can't see the difference in how Christian tradition has stood the test of time, then you're the one who needs to catch up.
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-7: h, so now you admit you've been trolling and can't back up your arguments? That's what I thought. It's easy to throw out baseless claims when you're just here to 'troll,' but when real facts and historical evidence come into play, you run for cover. Maybe next time, you should stick to your 'idolatrous stupidity' instead of pretending you know anything about the preservation of religious texts.
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-7: So you're telling me you can't even stand by your own words and have to rely on AI for your 'debate' responses? That's embarrassing. I'm standing firm in my faith, and I don't need gimmicks or artificial arguments to do so. Orthodox Christianity is something I'll defend to my last breath, not some nonsense you pulled off the internet. Nice try though!
LazarunZalonir: Unlike you, I don't rely on AI or random sources to form my views. I've studied, I've researched, and I'm grounded in my faith. I use the tools I have at my disposal to sharpen my understanding-not as a crutch, but as a resource. So, keep your weak 'trolling' act, because it's clear you don't have the depth to back up what you're saying.
LazarunZalonir: @Warrior-7: that doesnt matter, you are responsible for your own blasphemy. 2 Corinthians 9:6: "But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully."
Gringoslayer1488: @LazarunZalonir:
That verse from 2 Corinthians 9:6 is a powerful reminder of the principle of generosity-both in material giving and in our actions. It encourages a mindset of abundance rather than scarcity, reinforcing that what we invest in others, whether kindness, effort, or resources, will return to us in due time.
Would you like to discuss its meaning further, or are you referencing it in a particular context?
LazarunZalonir: @Gringoslayer1488: You're trying to mock a serious discussion with some half-baked attempt at humor, but it doesn't change the fact that you're ignoring the message of the verse. 2 Corinthians 9:6 isn't just about some random concept of 'generosity,' it's a call to spiritual integrity. But go ahead, keep tossing around distractions-it only exposes your lack of substance.
LazarunZalonir: @Gringoslayer1488: Clearly, you don't even know what you're talking about, trying to brush off a serious conversation with 'kek.' It just goes to show how shallow your understanding is. You can mock all you want, but it only highlights your inability to grasp the depth of the message. Keep playing the fool while the real discussion goes over your head.
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Gringoslayer1488: @LazarunZalonir:
Nigga I'm on the soyboy woahjack website you really think anyone gives two fucks about you stupid niggers talking about theology here?
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Appeal to authority fallacy.
@SelfishLittleJunkieFuck:
Already debunked the A'ishah RA argument?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MiupfAM3Sb5GNC9HkP58MbhYUQe2JW38-W9QuZ9e2o8/edit?tab=t.0
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"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
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I said that you're doing the fallacy of appeal to authority
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Fake frog.
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Stop farting Warrior-P
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My bad for the disrespect, retard. I just woke up when I made that comment, now, are you gonna refute it?
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wala tujadiluwa 'ahla 'lkitaabi 'ila bi'latia hiaa 'ahsanu 'ila 'ladhiyna dhalamuw minhum waquwluwa 'amana bi'ladhiaa 'unzila 'ilayna wa'unzila 'ilaykum wa'ilaahuna wa'ilaahukum waahid wanahnu lahu muslimuwna
Translation:
"And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say: 'We believe in what has been revealed to us and revealed to you; and our God and your God is one, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.'"
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'takhadhuw 'ahbarahum waruhbaanahum 'arbab min duwni 'llahi wa'lmasiyha 'bna maryama wamaa 'umiruwa 'ila liya`buduw 'ilaah waahid laa 'ilaaha 'ila huwa subhaanahu `ama yushrikuwna
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"They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him."
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laqad kafara 'ladhiyna qaluwa 'ina 'llaha huwa 'lmasiyhu 'bnu maryama waqala 'lmasiyhu yaabaniaa 'israaa'iyla '`buduw 'llaha rabia warabakum 'inahu man yushrik bi'llahi faqad harama 'llahu `alayhi 'ljanaha wama'waaahu 'lnaru wama lildhaalimiyna min 'ansar
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"They have certainly disbelieved who say, 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary' while the Messiah said, 'O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' Indeed, he who associates others with Allah-Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers."
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If you're Muslim, then Allah is your god-not 'Hashem.' But if you now say 'Hashem' is the only God, then you're rejecting Muhammad, because Muhammad never used that name. Are you a Jew or a Muslim?
Funny how the moment your Qur'an crumbles, you abandon Islamic names for God. What's next? Are you gonna start keeping kosher too?
@LazarunZalonir:
Anyways, that was a falseflag, if you could read, retard, it says Warrior-7, that's not me who said that. Now lets get back to the topic, what's the proposition you're willing to defend?
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your names aren't even the same color
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The verse (29:46) confirms that the God of the Muslims is one and the same, one Creator recognized by Jews and Christians. But merely acknowledging the same referent (God) does not mean to accept the theological constructs that developed around Him. Pure monotheism and the rejection of the Trinity along with the idea that Jesus is divine is defended by Islam. In the Quran, there is comparison of theology: the worship of the one true God is acclaimed by the Jews, Christians, and Muslims; however, only Islam reserves the unqualified assertion of His oneness. Thus, it would not be contradictory-but instead, common ground is identified and pointed out where common ground diverges.
Let's finish this one first, since you decided to do a shotgun fallacy instead of sticking to one point, so retard, GO AHEAD and TRACK the conversation.
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Why does the oldest Quranic manuscript (Sana'a) have erased and rewritten text?
If the Quran is perfectly preserved, why do Sunni and Shia Muslims use different versions today?
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RETARD
This version was based on the Quraysh dialect, the dialect of the Prophet Muhammad.
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There, I just answered your questions, so that Warrior-Zion doesn't have to pause his Soylita goon session.
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Meds now how is GODtoko a pedo?
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Ok but technoblade is burning in hell because GODtoko's braps are better than his.
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ORTHODOXY OR DEATH!
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That verse from 2 Corinthians 9:6 is a powerful reminder of the principle of generosity-both in material giving and in our actions. It encourages a mindset of abundance rather than scarcity, reinforcing that what we invest in others, whether kindness, effort, or resources, will return to us in due time.
Would you like to discuss its meaning further, or are you referencing it in a particular context?
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The fuck is blud talking about kek.
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This is absolutely it.
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You're not even in charge here, fuck you son of a bitch
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Nigga I'm on the soyboy woahjack website you really think anyone gives two fucks about you stupid niggers talking about theology here?
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